Thread Closing Edit: Deleted as I will not be participating in SDGO any more.


Edited by RickDiasPK - Apr 25 2012 at 9:29pm

With black rick dias; the best way to play is close range bombing from above.

And it can actually do a decent melee(bird lime + generous use of melee dash) against paper that has PS armor.

please include aries my fave c type XD :) still trying for ex skill with it sigh ^^

Originally posted by Mistori Waiting for Zaku II Mine Layer (for the lulz)

This.

S**tting mines vs. someone trying to sneak up on it = lulz.

Originally posted by Mistori Nice post.

Thank you!

My opinion is still that the only decent ones in our current content are the Zaku I cmd & Zaku II Fz.

You're not alone in thinking that; I've met others who feel the same way. Certainly these two Zakus are the most intuitive of the lot, and have very useful Commander skills. They're popular for very good reason. If I had to pick just one C-Scissor to have for PVP, I would give very strong consideration to the Zaku I Commander.

However, I've had genuinely acceptable results with several other C-Scissors. This wasn't necessarily a list of just the best C-Ranks, some are included because they're enjoyable and can do at least decent in PVP. The GM Custom is a fine example; it's honestly fun to just play an intuitive mid-ranged shooter whose primary job is "shoot lots of bullets, and be rewarded for doing so." I may not win every game with it, but I win often enough to justify having one in my hangar for whenever I'm feeling like quoting South Burning.

The GM III is similarly fun once you get its Speed up to snuff. It's like a lesser version of the Re-GZ's MS mode. Move in for a melee combo, then backdash while firing missiles and toss in a beam rifle shot afterward. You can do this against both I-Field and Phase Shift units (perhaps replacing the missile or beam for another shot of the better weapon against that defense type, admittedly) and score very nice damage... better than its low Attack score would suggest, due to the sheer volume of fire you're putting out at melee range.

Rick Dias Black? Birdlime is a good tool (I've saved allies with it before, it's not as good as a Stun but it is useful), and the bazooka has enabled me to do tremendous damage to even S-Rank Papers. On rare occasions, I've solo'ed a wing zero ver. ew. More frequently, I do enough damage that losing my two point unit to let a teammate easily mop up the wounded five pointer was a great trade.

The Repair units have their own obvious value, as do the units suited for Char Gelgoog quests (I suspect that unit will be very popular). Some 'main combat' units like the astray just teach useful skills. The Jegan is a fun thrill-seeker unit; you die easily, but you punch well above your Rank and may take a high-value foe down with you if you get lucky.

Not everything in the list is something you should bring to a tournament match. Anyone using it as a list of stuff to get for diehard, "King of Clans" grade competition is in for a huge disappointment. However, most of these C-Scissors are at least passable in casual play and are easy to use or offer a fun gimmick. For the purpose of 'semi-serious public PVP', I think these units are at least good enough to have a realistic chance of winning.


Edited by RickDiasPK - Feb 20 2012 at 2:50pm

Originally posted by Mistori the current GM III is decent, but the CU Version of GM III blows it outta the water. I had an OC5 GM III (CU) in hk and that was mighty fun to use. I used it exactly like my oc6 re-gz. But again yes, they're just not that great when it comes down to competitive play.

C rank GM III is not great.

CR GMIII...lol, 2 gud.

GM III is good because ZZ line needs a few of those.

This is only my impression from fooling around with one briefly while grinding it for blueprint use, but...

union flag could be good. Right now the problem is we only get them in 2-slot varieties. I'll want to wait a bit until we can get 4-slot ones before I make one at length. Still, it has the right features to be good. Edit: Deserves a little more detail. Basically, I really like how mobile it is and how easy the linear rifle is to use. It fits a fine niche between bazookas and beam rifles, with the large projectile making it very easy to hit targets at all but its most extreme limits of range.

Rapid Reload keeps you firing, and the 'vulcans' are a decent finisher weapon as well as anti-Funnel tool. It's a very straightforward, mobile shooter with decent stats. I definitely want one, once we can make Custom 4 Slot versions. The fact we're limited to 2-slot versions for the time being is the sole reason I can't seriously recommend it, because this significantly hurts the unit's growth potential.




Edited by RickDiasPK - Mar 17 2012 at 12:04pm

Depends on whether I stick around with the game or not. I am currently feeling kind of "meh" on it and keeping up on Dailies just in case I do stay, but right now... mm. Not feeling so great about what ogp is doing.

What about GM ground type?

I haven't seen the scissor versions in action (C and CU)
but their homing missile on the paper version is pretty effective

What do you think about Union Flag?

I'd like to bring two of my personal choices to your attention, largely to see what you think of them:

The Blaze Zaku Warrior is the one I'm less confident about in terms of capability, but it has a 'jack of all trades' feel to it. Mobility Up and Reload Up are a nice pair of skills that keep me from using the ranged special so they can remove the weaknesses of slow movement and medium reload speed on the weapons. The weaponry is a combination of beam and solid, so there's no glaring weakness there. To my knowledge it is the only C-rank other than the GM Ground Type with a homing weapon (the missiles), and the Firebees launch vertically so you have the ability to fire at a target from behind cover- at the cost of hating anywhere that has a low ceiling.

I'm presently upgrading it with a custom Defense/overcustom Attack setup.

The Gouf Flight Type is my preferred C-rank Scissors at the moment. I've been enjoying the fast reload rate and plentiful ammunition combined with decent mobility. It's a rare case where I find myself out of ammo, allowing me to stay at range and keep up a constant hail of fire. My biggest concern is that it seems like the damage output is low; I often find myself 'sandblasting' opponents, firing at them in a constant stream that leaves them with some life left over once I switch weaponry.

Skillwise, the High Performance OS plays to the suit's strengths while Vaccine-V has been a nice source of quiet support.

I'm focusing on Attack for upgrades, to try and mitigate the one frustration I have with the MS.