I've played MANY fighting games that involve special attacks:
Fatal Fury
WWE/WWF
Street Fighter
Def Jam: Fight for New York
Bloody Roar
Ready 2 Rumble boxing
Plasma Sword
etc...

But this is the only game that I've played where you actually get "rewarded" for getting beat up...
If anyone has ever played Def Jam: Fight for New York, then you remember how fun it was to beat up people and how accomplished you felt when you got your special finisher because it actually proved that you were in fact winning that fight.

But in this game, it's completely backwards. Most of the time in PvP or Warfare, the case is basically that the other team is winning because your beating the crap out of them. Do you see how backwards that is? Basically you're beating them to a virtual pulp which allows them to get back up and W mash, or E mash you.

To flip the script a bit, if you quit a PvP match (which is a way of being/admitting defeat) you lose manner points, ladder, and a tiny amount of zen. So why is it that when you get beat down by other players, you gain manner rather than lose it?

So here is my question in two different forms:
1st. Why is it that winning doesn't get you special points, but losing does?
2nd. Why does this game babysit losers?

That's like saying "here your club came in last place in the gang war, here's 20m so you don't feel bad," even though the winning team only got 10m


Idk, just curious and kind of annoyed with this.

Man plasma sword on the dreamcast was the BEST!!!! That dude with the Yo-yos was so damn epic!!! =D

I mean, I can see what you're saying but it's almost dumb though. I don't get SP for kicking your ass, but you get SP for getting a beat down. The difference between this game and others is that you can upgrade your special move, so most people are just running around with +10 W or E with a truck load of special attack and Fantastic Fighter title.

I would call it fair, but dude it's not....
Remeber 4v4 rooms when Natoo, Klinger, and Suckbaby were on the same team??? They were basically winning as a result of getting their rear ends handed to them...
That's not fair, that's just crap, especially when you factor in that this game has a truck load of glitches where if you get W'd and your up against a wall you stand a 90% chance of the W somehow forcing you to stand up and get hit by it...

e.e u dont understand what demon was saying... There is a glitch? When u hit wall and fall on ground and some1 use W in same time u will get up and get full W...

ohhhhh man..tekken and street fighter is BEAST!! i been playin them ever since i was 3 years old...ahhhh good times

i think its fair.. cuz not every1 is super op... it gives new players a chance to fight back... this is 1 way zone is new player friendly...  now...if they can work on the other ways? O.o

Yeah... it's fair until that "new player" blasts you to all hell with a +10 W because he got his butt kicked. Then it just becomes annoying when you realize that this "new player" is being given the power to kill you with 1 button and you won't have any SP to fight back with.

And ok, sure, it's fair for the "new players" to get SP when they get hit, but what about the people that are already "OP"? What about those people that are 12 stars and up that are just W blasting to all balls? How do you justify that?


To address the glitch
As I noticed today in basketball court, you don't even need to be against a wall, it's just a random glitch. A TKD W'd in my direction while I was on the ground, and the second part of his W made me stand up AND be in the air so I couldn't even Q out of it.... and of course his W was +9 so I died from it.

Don't even nerf it, just get rid of it completely. You shouldn't get Special Powers for getting beat up... or to put it more blunt for having your ass kicked...

Getting hit shouldn't make your SP go up nor down, however hitting someone should make your SP go up. Also, how hard you hit shouldn't make your SP go up any faster or slower either.

And as Ledel said, respawn SP should stay there.

How SP is right now should only be in beginner channel like PacMan said because it makes it fair for the new players, or just make it like that for people that are 10 stars and lower or something...